Also the public debate around MILRAM cheese packaging this past summer put the topic of diversity in the spotlight. Despite some hostility, the campaign received an overwhelmingly positive response and led to a significant increase in diverse applications at DMK Group. But what does lived diversity actually mean? Podcast hosts Marco Bode, former European football champion, and Oliver Bartelt, Head of Communications at Deutsches Milchkontor, discuss this with two executives who rely on practical accessibility, open communication, and teamwork as levers of integration.